Editing Alt.gothic

alt.gothic is where we started talking, arguing & flirting. You can find it on Usenet<ref>It's not hard</ref>. We may or may not be [[Goth | goths]] depending.

== Beginning ==

It appears to have been started on [[ISC_record | 01 November 1991]] by [http://www.lauralemay.com/ Laura Lemay]<ref>The power of [http://community.livejournal.com/goth_macros stupid macros] validates that [http://blog.lauralemay.com/archives/2007/07/im_in_ur_goth_macro.html they are the same person]</ref>. The oldest posts Google has are from the 4th of November, but a couple of them are [http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.gothic/browse_thread/thread/bd6252d6335bad47/6620c7abf161245f?hl=en&lnk=st&q=group%3Aalt.gothic#6620c7abf161245f responses] to what appear to be posts on the 2nd.
 
The charter & request to create a.g was [http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.config/browse_thread/thread/f7bab753bda47b39/fbdef2a63ac063ec?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=alt.gothic#fbdef2a63ac063ec posted to alt.config] by [http://groups.google.ca/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=9KTbihkAAABOX7GQyKqiOn3mzsZ175scVfbiFziOdjG8sOcaNavG3A Eldritch the thrillseeker], who posted out of University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign on 30 October 1991. 

The first [http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.gothic/browse_frm/thread/2a88e37af4989f4?hl=en&tvc=1&q=group%3Aalt.gothic  "Is x gothic?"] post was on 03 November 1991. In this case x = Fields of the Nephilim, and someone asked in a non-troll like fashion if SoM were Goth.

The first[http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.gothic/browse_thread/thread/7cdad8d419833e47/2825d58dde056f85?hl=en&lnk=st&q=group%3Aalt.gothic#2825d58dde056f85  "What is goth?"] post was at 17:27 on 04 November 1991. 

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

== After A While ==

Three years later, some of the regulars had the bright idea that doing this in the same physical location with alcohol & music would be a really good idea.

Hence, [[Convergence]]

== FAQ ==

If you want to know more about the group, read the [[alt.gothic FAQ v4.0.0.1 beta]] or [[Alt.gothic_faq | v4.0.4 "Finding a sickness you like"]]<ref>This page should probably be orphaned...</ref>

== Technical Stuff ==

Alt.gothic is a USENET newsgroup for goths. USENET is an absolutely huge discussion for virtually anything, started in 1979. A newsgroup is a subject-oriented subsection of USENET. [http://www.newsreaders.com/ Newsreaders.com] has a general discussion of how to get yourself hooked up to USENET. Many ISPs already maintain USENET news servers available for their customers' use without additional charge, and many news clients are available for free or very low cost as well.

For those without the interest to maintain a separate tool for reading the newsgroup, there are several alternatives:

* [http://groups.google.com/ Google Groups] provides a web-based interface to [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gothic/topics alt.gothic]
* Google also provides a read-only [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gothic/feed/rss_v2_0_msgs.xml RSS Feed]. [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gothic/feeds Atom feed] is also available. See [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gothic/feeds Google's alt.gothic feed list] for additional feed information and feeds.
* LiveJournal has a [http://syndicated.livejournal.com/altgothic/ syndication] of this feed that can be added to friends pages. As this can easily overwhelm a Friends List, there's also a syndicated feed of the more-topical [http://syndicated.livejournal.com/agconvergence/ alt.gothic.convergence]. 

==People==

A lot of us use Facebook so somebody created an alt.gothic page on it. Because most people have different identities on it than they did on [[Usenet]], there's a page to translate called [[So We Know Who The Hell We Are]].


== Trivia ==
[[Divergence]] - Some of the regulars couldn't make it to [[C4 | Convergence IV]] so they organised a meet up on IRC instead. This is before the days of webcams, wireless or even affordable laptops so usenet was very quiet on Convergence weekends in those days.

== Notes ==
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